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March 31, 2011

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partisan

One point, that I don't think has been made so far in the commentary on Taylor's death. Richard Burton, after WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINIA WOOLF, or perhaps ANNE OF A THOUSAND DAYS, saw his acting reputation collapse. So much so that Michael Medved and his brother included him as the worst actor of his day, and this did nothing to improve his status. But although I haven't seen either film, I strongly suspect 1984 stands up better than THE FLINTSTONES.

Glenn Kenny

Yeah, but Michael and Harry Medved also put "Last Year At Marienbad" in their "Worst Movies of All Time" book. Also, think about it: MICHAEL MEDVED. So there's that.

His later years are problematic, yeah, because he was a mess, but when he could pull together and focus, or be compelled to give a damn about the material, he could still do something. He's fine in "1984," and better than that in "Assassination of Trotsky." But quite a lot of what you see of Burton on screen late in his career is, we might as well face it, a kind of cautionary tale of untreated alcoholism.

partisan

I suppose I should have rephrased that first comment to be more sarcastic about the Medveds: Burton's reputation was so bad that even the Medveds could denounce him, and people would still agree with them.

david hare

Burton is definitely his own worst enemy in most of his films. But Trotsky is a long unheralded great work -for him and for Losey IMO, after a decade of BS Arthouse events from Losey himself. It resonates as a movie with Losey's very best. Like M. Klein with Delon, and in both movies Losey seems to let his camera loose onto the last vision of human personality that seemed to interest him - the disintegration of the male ego into landscape, seeingly only through the male.

Burton also nearly ruins an otherwise perfect film - Cleopatra. I dunno whether BrianD agrees with me. I can only say thanx to Brian I now revere this film as a transcendental masterpiece. (Brian there's a FOX HD broadcast of this which runs oer 4 hours and is totally staggering.)

I think I just wish Peter Finch had been on line to get the gig, rather than fucking Burton.

Brian Dauth

David H: Thanks for the compliment -- it is just my task in life: making new CELOPATRA supporters one spectator at a time. As for Burton: he has always seemed adequate to me, bringing off Antony's petulance and vanity. One thing that should be noted: most of the cuts to JLM’s original 6-hour, two-movie version were made in the Antony section. Also, Stephen Boyd was the original choice for Antony; Finch was slated to play Julius Caesar with Rex Harrison making a splendid substitute.

Asher

You know, I don't even like Mankiewicz's so-called masterpieces that much; though I know it isn't fashionable around here to fault a director for not liking his characters, there's that, and then there's his dinner theater, sub-Wildean quippy way of showing you just how much he dislikes them. That said, I don't know if anyone could have done a good job with SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER. Maybe Sirk could have done it in a completely ironic way; I suppose Delmer Daves could have at least made enjoyable pulp out of it. But with "big" moments like "cut the truth out of my brain, is that what you want, Aunt Vi," it'd be tough. Tennessee Williams has a lot of unfortunate film dialogue to answer for, and it's unfortunate that Taylor spent so much of her career reading it

Glenn Kenny

Asher, I like Mankiewicz more than you do, but not as much as some others...that said, I think the notion of a Delmer-Daves-directed "Suddenly Last Summer" is INSPIRED. Stahl might have been able to make something of it, too. Then there's Fasssbinder...

Brian Dauth

Asher: I find that Mankiewicz rarely dislikes any of his characters - especially his women. He is justly skeptical of masculinity and masculine power, but even in his portraits of men, he is capacious.

As for S,LS: Mankiewicz improves Williams’ narrative in playing down the homo self-hatred and making the film about class, money, and power (Tennessee was undergoing psychoanalysis to cure his homosexuality when he wrote the play. It failed, but echoes of the treatment remain in the play). I doubt that Sirkian irony or Daves-brand pulp would be able to do justice to Williams’ lyrical/queer tragedy. Fassbinder, however, would be an inspired choice, but then he was deeply influenced by and appreciative of Mankiewicz (Almodovar would be another superb option).

I do not think Williams has anything to apologize for regarding his dialogue: he was America’s greatest poet of the stage. His language was unfailingly lyrical, and suffered only when rewritten by directors who lacked his facility with words. Mankiewicz was always proud that Tennessee could not identify the lines he added to the original play.

christian

I finally watched the Fox HD 4-Hour CLEOPATRA - twice. It's not at all a bad movie, and Rex Harrison is fantastic. Burton is awesome too, and plays the petulance just right. But it's Roddy McDowall who steals the epic.

jbryant

I'm drooling at the thought of an HD CLEOPATRA. Though I have HD, my cable system's Fox Movie Channel is standard def only. Drat!

christian

And the most amazing thing about CLEOPATRA now is looking at actual humans drag a gigantic fucking-normous cat statue bearing Liz Taylor through an actual massive set. Talk about Roman decadence!

jbryant

Yeah, that's an amazing scene, even in standard def on a 42" screen.

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