Consider that our curious Mr. Button goes through his whole life surrounded by people who speak in nothing but greeting-card platitudes. Wait, I wrote a bunch of them down.
*"You never know what's coming for ya." That's Button's adoptive mom, a very kind African-American woman played by Taraji P. Henson. The sentiment is a less ominous variant of No Country For Old Men's "You can't stop what's coming." Sometimes being ominous really helps.
*"It's not about how well you play, it's about how you feel about what you play." That's the nice woman who teaches Button piano. (Sorry, Miss Actor, I forgot to write your name down.) And of course she's absolutely right.
*"We're meant to lose the people we love; how else are we to know how important they are to us?" I don't even know who says this.
*"Savor it. And don't eat it all at once, because that way there's nothing left to enjoy." That's Benjamin's older/younger lover Elizabeth Abbot (Tilda Swinton, maintaining an admirably straight face) teaching Benjamin—who, given his condition, is of course a Gump-esque naif, only he doesn't talk as funny—how to eat caviar. METAPHOR!!!!
*"You realize what's changed is you." That's Benjamin himself, in voiceover, reflecting on how you can go home again, but why it doesn't feel the same sometimes when you do. Awww.
*"I was thinking about how nothing lasts. And what a shame that is." "Some things last." That's Benjamin, and the love of his life, Daisy. Daisy is played by Cate Blanchett, and late in the film, she gets to revisit her role as Katherine Hepburn in The Aviator, sort of,which is nice. The framing device of the film is based around Blanchett's character, who's dying in a New Orleans hospital, now so old she looks and sounds like one of those really scary screaming eyeless things from Pan's Labyrinth. Daisy's daughter—a very drawn-looking Julia Ormond—is reading her Benjamin's diary. And, oh yeah, Hurricane Katrina's starting to pound the hospital windows. You really never DO know what's coming for you! And if it's a freakin' hurricane, you sure as hell can't stop it! Get it?
*"Sometimes we're on a collision course and we just don't know it." Benjamin again. Like our friend Forrest, a regular fount of homespun wisdom.
*"You can swear and curse the fates, but when it comes to the end, you have to let go." I don't know who says that either, but it's in there.
*"Fuck me gently with a chainsaw." Oh, wait, that's from Heathers.
And there's like almost three hours of this. And a hummingbird. And a lot of great visuals that bring to mind, more than Kubrick or Zemeckis or anyone else, but Jean-Pierre Jeunet. Specifically the Jeunet of Un Long Dimanche des Fiancelles, with its love for panoramas and the golden glow that makes you think everything's shot through a filter of wheat—Fincher throws in fog and snow too, to keep stuff interesting. And interesting is all it is. One really weird thing about this movie that I didn't glom onto before I started thinking about it—it's just so goddamn polite. I mean, I'm really glad they toned down the world-historical-through-the-eyes-of-a-very-common-man devices of Gump here, but watching Button, you'd get the impression that New Orleans from 1918 to 1962 was a paradise of racial harmony. Nary a character raises his/her voice in the whole picture; even Jared Harris' putatively boisterous tugboat captain is relatively genteel.
Oh well. I can only explain the hosannas starting to come this picture's way as evidence of a sort of mass delusion—they know that Button expects to move them, and they want to be moved by it, so they roll over for this soft-headed nonsense in a bright shiny digital package. Such is the power of the Button juggernaut that it put at least one naysayer on the defensive. "I'm going to try very hard not to waste my energy trashing the inevitable prom king," Spout's Karina Longworth sighed, before moaning, "frankly, I'm tired of fighting for my right to disagree."
Well, Karina, I'm here to tell you something: Get over it, and get over yourself, moja sestra. Let your freak flag fly! There's two of us now; tomorrow there will be more. Welcome to the fight; this time I know our side will win.
Okay, not really, but, you know.
UPDATE: It occurs to me that many might think I'm just pummeling Button's treacly dialogue, and that after all, many of Sirk's masterpieces, for example, are packed with treacly dialogue. Except that in Sirk's films the mise-en-scene often challenge or contradict the sap. And, in any case, it isn't all sap—c.f. the devastating "Why Annie, I didn't know you had any friends," in Imitation of Life. In Button, Fincher's mise-en-scene is entirely in the service of the treacle. In other words, Fincher buys it. Which I suppose was his job...
You managed to sort of express solidarity with me, and sort of insult me simultaneously. That's impressive.
Posted by: Karina | November 25, 2008 at 11:49 AM
As the saying goes, I kid because I love. I meant more to josh/jostle than genuinely insult. But I am actually curious—what are the pressures that make you feel you've got to fight to defend your perspective on the film? I'm absolutely comfortable panning it, prom king or not. Do I just have a thicker hide, or is something going on that I'm not aware of?
Posted by: Glenn Kenny | November 25, 2008 at 12:02 PM
Damn you Kenny, you shattered my hopes that Fincher was entering a serious, rich artistic phase with the great ZODIAC. Maybe it was just a fluke? Or maybe he just needs to work w/ better screenwriters.
I am still holding out hope (perhaps foolishly) for AUSTRALIA...
Posted by: B.W. | November 25, 2008 at 12:03 PM
Yowch. If you hadn't provided all those quotes as evidence, I might have been able to hold on to a shred of hope. But this sounds amazingly not-good in a way I wasn't expecting, after "Zodiac".
But I liked Fitzgerald's story...
Posted by: bill | November 25, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Button looks like a cartoon put up against Barry Lyndon. But i'm a sucker for Fincher (ever since I saw Alien 3) so i'll check it out. The Gump comparisons and greeting card dialogue are a major worry though. Thanks for the warning Glenn.
Posted by: Mark | November 25, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Wonderful, I'm two kinds of people. I believe in Barry Lyndon and Forrest Gump.
Posted by: Thomas H. | November 25, 2008 at 01:13 PM
I'm sad now. I was so rooting for this film. Especially since the trailer had me at the use of Camille Saint-Saëns' "Carnival of the Animals" for it's score. But then you raised the spectre of "Forrest Gump," a trailer I was also suckered by, and a film I utterly detested.
I'm really hoping that this time you are being the curmudgeon all the trolls like to accuse you of being. But chances are you're just being acutely accurate.
Posted by: Tony Dayoub | November 25, 2008 at 01:21 PM
Can't say I disagree with any of what you're saying, but I liked the movie a good deal anyway -- and I *hate* Gump. The peculiarity of the details and the oddity of the central conceit was just enough to make me buy it in spite of myself. Tilda screwing up her nose at flies in the honey in a late-night snowed-in Russian hotel? I surrender.
Posted by: Jürgen | November 25, 2008 at 01:44 PM
How interesting that Forrest Gump would come up when discussing the new David Fincher picture. For many years now I have seen strange similarities between the films of Mr. Fincher and Robert Zemeckis. With the possible exceptions of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and "Used Cars" none of Zemeckis films have worked for me. Most, if not all seem to rely more on gimmicks than story. Special effects (and the clever execution of them) have taken the front seat to everything else. His work has no weight and little staying power. Which leads me to the recent work of David Fincher (excluding last year's brilliant "Zodiac"), as much as I enjoyed "Alien 3" and "Se7en", couldn't we have slapped Zemeckis name on both "The Game" and "Panic Room" and be none the wiser?
Posted by: Robert | November 25, 2008 at 01:56 PM
What do you mean by "believe Barry Lyndon" x "believe Forrest Gump"? I've seen the three movies and I have some idea of what you're talking about but I'd like to know exactly...
Posted by: James Grebmops | November 25, 2008 at 02:29 PM
"Barry Lyndon"—a clear-eyed, caustic, ironical perspective on the human condition. "Forrest Gump"—a sentimental, putatively "open-hearted" perspective on the human condition.
Posted by: Glenn Kenny | November 25, 2008 at 02:37 PM
Was sorry to read this posting, implying as it does that you were hoping for a second coming of "Barry Lyndon". One such self-regarding mannerist monolith is chunk-enough out of my lifespan.
Posted by: JW | November 25, 2008 at 03:12 PM
I was implying no such thing. I don't hope for second comings of anything—never have. I was, as I said above, contrasting distinct world views communicated by distinct films.
And now I'm biting my tongue.
Posted by: Glenn Kenny | November 25, 2008 at 03:17 PM
What about those of us who believe JOHNNY GUITAR?
Posted by: Cadavra | November 25, 2008 at 03:40 PM
I am going to disagree, very politely, with your update thoughts, Glenn. You call the dialogue you quote from Button treacly; I would call it fatuous. And of course you know that I am now and forever a Sirk worshipper, but I can't come up with any lines in Sirk's movies that ever struck me as fatuous.
And I'm honestly not coming up with anything sappy, either. Maybe in Magnificent Obsession--the closing line may be overly hortatory, although I wouldn't say it's sappy, and it has layers of irony underneath--but no line I remember from that movie is so hackneyed. Instead I am thinking of things like the exchange in All That Heaven Allows about the Egyptian custom of walling up women, or the TV installation man's amazing speech nattering on about seeing the parade of life ...
Is there something specific that you have in mind, and that I am not recalling? Some of Lana's dialogue in Imitation of Life is over the top, but then there is Sandra Dee snapping back "Oh Mother, stop acting!" So it isn't just the mise en scene, the characters themselves are reacting to the self-dramatization. But I remember the bite to so much of it, such as when Juanita Moore is telling her daughter to meet nice boys at church, and Susan Kohner snarls back "Busboys, chaffeurs, cooks!" And most of what I recall from Written on the Wind is noir-tough. "I'll kill him!" "A whiskey bottle is all you'd kill."
Well, anyway, forgive me for this digression, I do tend to pounce on any chance to talk up Sirk. And, though no one asked, I believe "Tarnished Angels."
Posted by: Campaspe | November 25, 2008 at 04:26 PM
As I read your comments, I kept thinking, it's "Meet Joe Button," directed by Fincher instead of Martin Brest.
Posted by: larry aydlette | November 25, 2008 at 04:32 PM
@Campaspe—I think I was too quick to get on the defensive in my update, and hence stepped into some categorical errors therein. What I was thinking about wasn't so much the dialogue in Sirk as such, but the occasional reactions of "hip" contemporary audiences to the dialogue. But I had in mind mostly "All That Heaven Allows." I'll have to look at it again. But in any case I don't want to propose a way to ultimately prove my line of argument—I ought to have kept Sirk out of it.
In "Button" the fatuousness of the dialogue sincerely communicates the fatuousness of its worldview, and that fatuousness is honored by Fincher's visuals, as groundbreaking as some of them are.
Posted by: Glenn Kenny | November 25, 2008 at 04:35 PM
Glenn, fair enough. I know exactly what you mean. I saw Imitation of Life at the Public Theater years ago and the experience was horrendous due to a "hip" audience just as you describe. And your point about Button is crystal-clear.
**sheaths her vorpal blade, Sirk's honor being in no danger after all**
Posted by: Campaspe | November 25, 2008 at 04:38 PM
The trailer for BENJAMIN BUTTON almost made me puke.
Wait, that should be in quotation marks. Seriously, Glenn.
The Gump-y oldmanchild with tolerant mommy, the whole concept, and trying to elevate it with the Saint-Saens music used for DAYS OF HEAVEN: it was unclean.
Then I saw David Fincher's name on it and I was sure somebody was going to be carved up while alive. Thus the nausea.
I will never see this movie.
Posted by: justine | November 25, 2008 at 04:51 PM
I don't know if I believe it (scratch that, I don't) but I sure enjoy Gump. And why is it everyone only remembers the sentimentality? There was actually quite a bit of humor - some even borderline dry (we're not talking Lyndon, but still). And its politics make a fascinating case study: is it a reactionary thumb in the eye of the 60s counterculture (on paper, yes) or a celebration thereof (between the lines, definitely). Some would say it's trying to have it both ways, and perhaps it is. But I still find the tension pretty interesting. I'd have to read the Winston Groom novel again - which I recall as being utterly unsentimental (at one point Gump becomes a pro wrestler who dresses as a giant turd) - to see where the political slant comes from; I'd suspect Zemeckis et al. are not particularly anti-counterculture.
Anyway, I've always had more respect for Gump than most, and I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy it immensely.
That said, Button sounds like it probably won't be very good but I'm mighty curious to find out. Curious enough to rush it to the top of my Netflix queue a few months from now (I'd blame the economy, but it would probably be wiser to blame the still-traumatizing one-two punch of Fantastic Four & King Kong for making me so theater-shy).
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Genius opener Glenn. I'm now even more worried than I was upon the too-CGI trailer. Comparing something to Forrest Gump is the Scarlet Letter in my book.
On Button: Expectations considerably lowered.
Posted by: kurt | November 26, 2008 at 01:28 PM
I was figuring "Forrest Gump" from the trailer, but the idea that Fincher might have directed it never remotely ocurred to me.
As somebody said above, what a come down from "Zodiac."
Posted by: steve simels | November 26, 2008 at 02:00 PM
I, too, was hoping Benjamin Button would be the confirmation of Fincher's rise to some great new level of accomplishment.
Now I'm thinking, I guess, that a run of unguarded artistic success (and integrity) is difficult to maintain when working at the budgetary level that Fincher seems to prefer/require.
Zodiac was an expensive failure in the eyes of the studio, gone unrewarded even at Oscar time when expensive failures have a chance to redeem themselves. The fact that Zodiac might well be considered a canonical masterpiece in 30 years doesn't do much for Ficher's career right now.
We know he made some significant rewrites to the Zodiac script in order to bring it closer to his liking, so there's some evidence to suggest that he's not completely apathetic to what his characters are actually saying and doing within his highly-composed frame; maybe he's simply making a genuine effort to pander with this one, going against his intellectual instincts in the hopes of having an enormous, crowd-pleasing Awards-season smash attached to his name. You know, so he can go back to making good movies.
Or maybe Zodiac will be as good as it ever gets.
Posted by: BLH | November 26, 2008 at 02:20 PM
Glenn asked: But I am actually curious—what are the pressures that make you feel you've got to fight to defend your perspective on the film?
See the comments on this post: http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/13/benjamin-button-reviews-start-seeping-out/
And various blog posts around the internet making the same sorts of "arguments." I guess after 4 years of film blogging I should be immune to it, but it actually gets harder and harder to withstand the barrages of "you are an idiot."
Posted by: Karina | November 27, 2008 at 02:26 PM
@ Karina: Could be worse. I get a fair amount of "you are an idiot, and fat," myself.
Not on this blog, though, for which I am thoroughly grateful.
You shoulda seen some of the forums on Premiere.com. There was one guy who had such a hardon for me I almost got seriously spooked. He subsequently admitted he was fifteen years old and would have needed plenty of bus fare to realize his dream of assassinating me, which was a relief.
Karina, I'm not gonna advise you to develop a thicker skin, as I'm not in the advice business. I'll just say a writer doesn't play to his or her greatest strengths when he or she launches an argument from a defensive posture. Own your perspective, sez I.
Also, try to avoiding pissing off Chuck Stephens. Not that he's such a devastating intellectual opponent, but just because he's so unpleasant.
Posted by: Glenn Kenny | November 27, 2008 at 03:17 PM
I suppose I'm a Gump person, in that my argument for watching the film is in the relentless nasty cynicism lurking just beneath the surface. Which I think explains why I'm more annoyed with "Button" than anything else. It spans a huge amount of time and shows a man aging in reverse...why, exactly? What's the point of the exercise? "Gump" was giving Boomers the finger, what's "Button" up to? As far as I can tell, it's just been engineered to win awards.
Posted by: Dan | December 01, 2008 at 01:51 PM
I will concede that the script is the weakest part of the film, but I was far more engrossed with the visuals to pay too much attention. And it wasn't even the "grand" visuals that got me either. For me, the greatest shot was a close-up of Tilda Swinton in the elevator, her hat casting a shadow over her eyes. It was amazingly beautiful, and I hope I never forget it.
I was paying a lot of attention to the way the film played with form. The digitally added grain in the prologue about the clock, the cropped frame of the man getting struck by lightning, the mostly faded images from the 30's and 40's, followed by the bright Technicolor of the 50's and 60's; all of these registered to me as less Forrest Gump and more a chronicle of the evolution of film over time. I'm not sure if the thought was entirely appropriate, but I certainly appreciated the end more looking at it through that lens.
Posted by: Dan E | December 08, 2008 at 04:46 PM
I find your points interesting, Dan, and they almost make me believe I paid more attention to the film with my ears than with my eyes. Certainly there is quite a bit in the film that's visually arresting. But ultimately, as evolution-of-film in mise-en-scene goes, I'll stick with Scorsese's rather more tough-minded "The Aviator."
Posted by: Glenn Kenny | December 09, 2008 at 09:35 AM
We just saw "Button" and we started counting the similarities between "Gump" and "Button". Hummingbirds and feathers. Mississippi/Louisiana. Flighty girl takes off on the lead. ("And then she came back"). The tugboat/shrimp boat. Captain Jack. Prostitutes. Beatnik/drug days. War scene (Vietnam -> WWII). There are dozens. And the final one: Tom Hanks and Brad Pitt have eight letters in their names, coincidence, we think not!! (Anyway, despite this we did enjoy the movie, even when the tugboat caused a German U-Boat/Submarine to blow up :-)
Posted by: Mitch Lewis | December 27, 2008 at 12:25 AM