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bill

Did you really send that e-mail?

Glenn Kenny

Um, no. I'm guessing Mr. Newman doesn't really have a highly developed sense of irony, or even sarcasm, and would have hence perhaps been apt to take it seriously.

Josh

Very amusing, but it also makes me sad.

Among other things, why the use of first person plural?

And are they really such dullards, or do they just assume anyone still visiting their site is?

bill

Okay, well, I think you should send it. Hell, I thought you described the movie to a T!

Rob

Perhaps it's a good thing that I've stayed away from Premier for so long.... this is the first time I've seen that style of film review.


It made me want to vomit.

Sam Adams

You neglected to use the phrase "strum and drang."

Mark J

It's a sad state of affairs...Premiere used to be a wonderful magazine, and I miss it.

Pedro Canhenha

It's sad that publications like Premiere that were once a staple are now nothing but a small blip on the radar. I was a subscriber for almost 7 years and read Mr. Kenny's reviews attentively. Thankfully I have bookmarked this site and have already passed it on for so many of my friends, but for a while I was intrigued what had happened. I hope to continue reading your wonderful texts/dissertations/reviews/insights.

Campaspe

What Mark J said. And also Josh--funny post and all, but it makes me sad, too.

Ted

Glenn! You're the best!
While reading your faux Premiere.com review, I couldn't help but think of an "article" I read online recently. The piece, entitled (and I kid you not) "Who's Weirder? David Lynch or Darren Aronovsky?", presented it's case in three inane, useless, gramatically questionable paragraphs and, unsurprisingly, offered no answer. (Never mind the fact that they were comparing two COMPLETELY different directors!)
Not only is Pauline Kael spinning in her grave but Rex Reed is in a mad tizzy because, compared to this new generation of insta-journalists, he's a goddamn genius.
Sad is right, guys.

Glenn Kenny

To Josh, Pedro, Campaspe, Mark J., Ted...all of you. Thanks.

The pertinent film exchange that comes to mind is from "Citizen Kane."

Thompson: Still, I can't help but feel sorry for Mr. Kane...

Susan Alexander: You think I don't?

Keith Gow

Wow, I gave up on Premiere after you left, Glenn. But now it's worse than ever. Nobody has to write a review anymore, let alone craft some of the elegant critiques you penned.

Oh, dear.

Rodrigo Rothschild

I hadn't been over to premier.com since that fateful day. Just did and wow, that was ugly. And in the end I find your post more sad than funny.
On the other hand, your departure from the magazine gave birth to this wonderful blog and pointed the way (at least on my case) to The Auteurs, which is the best place ever.

Really hope things have worked out for you since then.

Aaron Hillis

Actually, that wasn't Andrew -- it was me, he who quit writing for Premiere in solidarity to your undue letting-go. Stop confusing the Benten boyz.

Also, three years ago I was asked to write up "Au Hasard Balthazar" in bullet point form for real (by that point, Moviefone's then existing Indie Film Guide was entirely watered down by corporate demand), and sadly made more money than Premiere ever paid. Can't find a record of it online anymore, but it looked not unlike this: http://movies.aol.com/franchise/indiefilmguide/spotlight/enfant_movie -- not my finest hour, but apropos to yr post.

When I next see you, we must talk REV ROAD + BEN BUTTON.

Dan

@Sam Adams

Nah, it's too old of a movie. Use "zeitgeist".

GloryG

I'm not trying to direct people to the site, but I wanted to mention that there's a redesign going on (beta.premiere.com), which seems to make it even more impossible to find the precious few of Glenn's reviews that actually made it online, so get them while you can.

novakant

It's similar on the other side of the pond - I used to read "Empire", because they actually have some good writers who love film and know their stuff. The problem is that the format of the magazine makes it hard to appreciate the quality of their work. You have to wade through tons of ads, "sponsored features", star profiles, boring interviews, "lad mag" features, trivia and reader contest stuff to get to the good bits. This is really a shame, because many of the reviews (nothing wrong with short reviews per se) and most of the longer, serious pieces are actually very good.

Dennis Doros

I love this! And of course, if Balthazar met Kelly from Clerks 2, I can see remake possibilities that Premiere can get behind, so to speak. Premiere, servicing the film industry! (An Ohio farm joke.)

MovieMan0283

Am I the only one who can't read the section beginning "I was having a bit with my buddy..." because the right side of the paragraph is cut off? Although I think I got the gist of it...

Gene

Hey Glen,
Saw you on the street the other day outside the building. Remember, I was hanging with Rog and you said hello. Give a call, maybe I have some work for you.
G.

Glenn Kenny

Well, nice to know you're a good sport, Gene. As it happens, I'm not looking for work at the moment. But it never ceases to amuse me that the first instinct of some of the people I take issue with—yourself, David Poland, Chuck Stephens—is to assume that I am. "Hey, you're full of shit." "Oh YEAH? Well, you don't have a job!" Great line of argument, that.

Anyhow, I'm sure you're a nice enough guy—we have at least one real (as opposed to just Facebook) friend in common—and I appreciate everybody's need to make a living. And I know things change. But, as the comments above attest, I'm not the only one who thinks what you and your cohorts are doing to Premiere is, excuse my language, a fucking shame. Then again, I'm sentimental. So sue me.

DennisY

I'm with you Glenn. When will these new media people learn that the only thing that works online is simply porting over the long-form, verbose methods that drove Premiere magazine to its grave. I mean, what kind of unfit dullard doesn't realize that, just because something doesn't work in magazine format, doesn't mean you shouldn't pathetically cling to it for dear life, simply because of an inability to adapt. Everyone knows that the ability to craft a long sentence with as many credibility-enhancing allusions is the only thing that's important when you're a writer. The ability to understand readers' wants and provide them with insight that's delivered in a way that's more appropriate for the media by which it's being delivered? No one with leather elbow pads taught us that 20 years ago, so it must be totally useless. Let the past be the past, Glenn, and write about movies. We come here to hear what you have to say about film, not to hear you indulge your bitterness brought on by the world's encouragement to adapt to the times. Although, you did write a review of a review. That's kind of meta. See, you're taking steps in the right direction!

Glenn Kenny

Actually, Dennis Y, YOU don't come here at all, and you don't actually know a thing about what drove the print version of "Premiere" into its grave. And your rationales for the dumbing-down of movie criticism smack of, among other things, sock-puppetry. But thanks for your thoughts. Did Todd Anderman slip you ten bucks, or something?

bill

DennisY disgusts me.

bill

Sorry, more: Dennis, the only thing that matters in writing is GOOD writing. What you're advocating is, quite literally, the death of that. I naively thought that the decisions that led to Premiere being what it is now were purely financial in nature. I didn't realize that anybody actually thought this shit was GOOD, was BETTER than actual writing. My God, man, what do you read in your free time?? Whatever lists might happen to be nearby?

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