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Ray Pride

The best rumination I've read on the issues, if you don't include the American Carol website wanting snitches on teenage ticket-takers.

Matt Singer

As a longtime David Zucker fan (at least when he's working in concert with his brother, Jim Abrahams, and Pat Proft) I have paid to see SCARY MOVIE 3 and 4 in theaters and though I doubt I'll get to AMERICAN CAROL in a theater, I will catch up with it eventually on DVD. I can't say I join you in your love of BASEKETBALL, but paling with Ernest Borgnine could win me over to just about any cinematic cause.

I want to know what the crowd was like when you saw AMERICAN CAROL. Was the theater crowded? Did people laugh?


Dan

So, basically, what you're saying is Zucker doesn't understand the nuances so the gags don't work. About what I expected from the trailer, but still profoundly disappointing. "Baseketball" was colossally stupid, but it had its moments, and "Scary Movie 3" was far better than the first two, and I don't mean that as a backhanded compliment. I didn't bother with number four.

Me, I'd just like to know when the Republican Party embraced JFK as one of their own, because last I checked, they preferred another gentleman to be president in 1960.

Andrew

Glenn, you should never have to apologize for liking Baseketball. That movie is hysterical. What other film is there to see a joke about Al Michaels being molested by his father?

Dan Coyle

because I love all of you, I took the time to find John Nolte's review:

http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4804

And some follow ups:

http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4862

http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4890

Dan Coyle

I would have liked Basketball had I not got the sneaking suspicion that Trey Parker and Matt Stone were essentially playing themselves- a pair of monstrously self-righteous, bullying punks who need those weaker than them to score off of and make themselves feel better.

Which, as I learned from someone who was on the early writing staff of SP, is not far off.

Dan Coyle

I must admit I paid money to see Scary Movie 3 and 4. But I usually refer to those films as ANNA FARIS' RACK 3 AND 4.

bill

Glenn, even I don't want to see this. And I remember laughing at least a few times at "Baseketball", as well.

Sam Adams

The key (well, a key) to Carol's badness is the fact that, per the Weekly Standard on-set profile, Sokoloff was in charge of the movie's plot, and Friedman of its jokes. I have a vision of the poor gagman trying desperately to dig himself out of whatever sad, bitter hole the operative from the Republican Jewish Committee has dug him into. "Okay, so I've got George Washington lecturing Michael Moore in the ashes of Ground Zero -- good luck!"

Dan Coyle

Village Voice interview with Zucker:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-10-01/film/airplane-director-david-zucker-talks-about-the-left-and-his-new-movie-an-american-carol/

A lot of Michael Moore's image is built upon populism. Your movie suggests the opposite: Michael Malone hates country music and NASCAR and looks down on people who aren't on the East Coast.

"I mean, he's gone and said that Americans are the dumbest people on the planet. We're pretty much taking these people at their word. I don't know Michael Moore. The thing about the country music, for example, is from a real quote."

In his book Downsize This!, he encourages people to listen to country music as the voice of America . . .

"Well, there must be different quotes."

MovieMan0283

I too will be paying to see American Carol, probably today, but my write-up will not be appearing until next week, when I begin my every-day-till-Nov. 4 focus on political docs and movies about American politics. I sense the movie could be of immense sociological value and simultaneously an aesthetic catastrophe. I had similar feelings about W., but am beginning to suspect that Stone might surprise us with a movie that isn't a complete train wreck. I enjoyed the recent Parallax View-inspired trailer, so we'll see.

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